we have been so flat out, we barely had time to reply to all your messages/emails. Our sincere apologies.
Anyway, getting to the news.....it has been proven very challenging to transport small (2 weeks old) fry. AM just told us that more than 1/3 of his portion of the fry died by the time he got home :( And he was just living 10 mins away driving! We gather it could have been the bumps along the way, cause these fry couldn't take such shaking. He and us did consider that perhaps walk "slowly" with the container (tank) would help the survival but slow walk would easily take a good half hour...anyway, at least there are a good number of them survived, so that's the good news.
Tomorrow DZ will come and pick the rest of the fry (we split the tank into 2 takers). So hopefully she'll take the challenge on walking slowly with the container :) Though she lives further than AM, so she may not want to do that....hmmmm maybe she just has to drive very slowly, weekend isn't so bad for driving slower :)
Friday, 25 July 2008
Thursday, 24 July 2008
fish updates
Quick updates on things. We've been very busy these couple of days going back/forth to hospital (our dearest mom is hospitalized), so our apologies to any delays of getting back to some of you.
Anyway, 2 tanks of fry already had home since couple of days ago. Thanks to AK, JD, RM. They should be around good 300-400 of fry there, enjoy them guys....
1 tank left, about 150-200 fry, current interest came from DZ, AM, SG, EI, D?, and MT (sorry not replying to you guys yet on this). Unfortunately, about half of this fry went dead this morning. Council had turned off electricity for road work the day before for nearly half a day at night and we didn't realize this till we got back from hospital (been staying there for 2 days). The timing had never came so perfect.....when the temperature dropped closer to 5C at night! Anyway, we're checking them out now and will keep them temporarily at our place till Friday. Guys, chances we will be only able to contact you on the weekend for this (time permitting).
Another bad news, one of the shipments to LH went all dead cause of freezing temperature (and our mistake of not putting 2 or 3 heatpacks -- we were running out of them and forgot about it till last minute due to hectic before we rushed off mom). This shipment took 2 days (we think???) rather than 1 day that we expected....Lucky other shipments weren't affected.....
This won't happen again (not sure if LH was anywhere happy about this, but hopefully she can forgive us for giving her such bad experience). It never happened before, but things are doomed to happen at least once.
Timing has always prevented us to be able to ship fish through courier, particularly FW courier (plus they had been so irregular to get to us that there are times when we waited for 2 darn days to get the goods picked up, or how frequently the missed our shipments making a 1 day delivery becoming 2 or 3 days!). We found that it is alot simpler to send them through AP though it has been mentioned to us recently as "illegal" to send live fish with them (not quite sure about this, but we've been doing that couple of times and the guy at the counter was ok about it). Anyway, perhaps we need to be clear about this to you....if you help us buying our fish, then we find whatever ways to get our fish to you, which may involve getting them through AP or if you're lucky through FW (we never tried AAE but currently there wasn't much of the time available on our side to deal with this atm).
Anywya, we still have 2 large tanks of giant HMPK for those who are interested ($100 for lot of 20-25 fish). A couple smaller tanks here and there, not having time to clean them up yet, but they have some fish too.....We've got lots of heatpacks now (was wondering if we ever consume them all, but we'll deal with this later, same way we need to deal with left over FW coupons later)....This week will be very very busy for us, so we may not able to reply to you at all, but next week we should have a day or 2 available to send the fish.
Some people have been asking for pictures of the fish, again as we said, we can't really take pictures but we will try again to do that later on the weekend (time permitting!!!).
There are currently quite a number (20 pairs??) of very large HMPK that would be ashame to go to pet shop (hmmm....haven't contacted them, but they should be quite happy to get our fish.....). Anyway, they are about 2.5 inches (both males and females) for 3-4 months ones. The younger ones about 2-2.3 inches for 2.5-3 months.
Also, we just noticed that there are very nice long fin females, particularly yellow corn, platinum red, cambo red, and copper females. We didn't notice them before cause we thought they were one of the males (with shorter fins) and they're hiding on the last-row tanks (pretty dark tanks too). This was a surprised cause their size is quite large for 2 month old, so definitely ones of those breeder-quality ones. Oh well, they won't get used by us for a couple of months time, so for those of you out there who'd like to start breeding them, let us know and we'll send them as part of your purchase (but you may still have to grow them till they're 3 or 4 months old before breeding....remember, they are large in body but small mentally!)
Hope the above clear things for some of you who have contacted us (yes, we'll get through the emails soon...please be patience)
Anyway, 2 tanks of fry already had home since couple of days ago. Thanks to AK, JD, RM. They should be around good 300-400 of fry there, enjoy them guys....
1 tank left, about 150-200 fry, current interest came from DZ, AM, SG, EI, D?, and MT (sorry not replying to you guys yet on this). Unfortunately, about half of this fry went dead this morning. Council had turned off electricity for road work the day before for nearly half a day at night and we didn't realize this till we got back from hospital (been staying there for 2 days). The timing had never came so perfect.....when the temperature dropped closer to 5C at night! Anyway, we're checking them out now and will keep them temporarily at our place till Friday. Guys, chances we will be only able to contact you on the weekend for this (time permitting).
Another bad news, one of the shipments to LH went all dead cause of freezing temperature (and our mistake of not putting 2 or 3 heatpacks -- we were running out of them and forgot about it till last minute due to hectic before we rushed off mom). This shipment took 2 days (we think???) rather than 1 day that we expected....Lucky other shipments weren't affected.....
This won't happen again (not sure if LH was anywhere happy about this, but hopefully she can forgive us for giving her such bad experience). It never happened before, but things are doomed to happen at least once.
Timing has always prevented us to be able to ship fish through courier, particularly FW courier (plus they had been so irregular to get to us that there are times when we waited for 2 darn days to get the goods picked up, or how frequently the missed our shipments making a 1 day delivery becoming 2 or 3 days!). We found that it is alot simpler to send them through AP though it has been mentioned to us recently as "illegal" to send live fish with them (not quite sure about this, but we've been doing that couple of times and the guy at the counter was ok about it). Anyway, perhaps we need to be clear about this to you....if you help us buying our fish, then we find whatever ways to get our fish to you, which may involve getting them through AP or if you're lucky through FW (we never tried AAE but currently there wasn't much of the time available on our side to deal with this atm).
Anywya, we still have 2 large tanks of giant HMPK for those who are interested ($100 for lot of 20-25 fish). A couple smaller tanks here and there, not having time to clean them up yet, but they have some fish too.....We've got lots of heatpacks now (was wondering if we ever consume them all, but we'll deal with this later, same way we need to deal with left over FW coupons later)....This week will be very very busy for us, so we may not able to reply to you at all, but next week we should have a day or 2 available to send the fish.
Some people have been asking for pictures of the fish, again as we said, we can't really take pictures but we will try again to do that later on the weekend (time permitting!!!).
There are currently quite a number (20 pairs??) of very large HMPK that would be ashame to go to pet shop (hmmm....haven't contacted them, but they should be quite happy to get our fish.....). Anyway, they are about 2.5 inches (both males and females) for 3-4 months ones. The younger ones about 2-2.3 inches for 2.5-3 months.
Also, we just noticed that there are very nice long fin females, particularly yellow corn, platinum red, cambo red, and copper females. We didn't notice them before cause we thought they were one of the males (with shorter fins) and they're hiding on the last-row tanks (pretty dark tanks too). This was a surprised cause their size is quite large for 2 month old, so definitely ones of those breeder-quality ones. Oh well, they won't get used by us for a couple of months time, so for those of you out there who'd like to start breeding them, let us know and we'll send them as part of your purchase (but you may still have to grow them till they're 3 or 4 months old before breeding....remember, they are large in body but small mentally!)
Hope the above clear things for some of you who have contacted us (yes, we'll get through the emails soon...please be patience)
Friday, 18 July 2008
passing of a giant betta
Last night, one of our largest giants passed away. The large 3.2 inches HMPK female...our own bred...She was so beautiful.....8 rays splitting....platinum red BF....
We had been having trouble in spawning this female for a long time and recently we simply gave up. It's not because the female was not interested to any males that we gave her, she's more than interested. It's just that none of the males is capable to tame her. Along the way, she managed to kill two of the most gorgeous males too :)
She's very aggressive and large. We tried her with our largest male (imported), but this failed too. the male was 3.3 inches long, no way to compare the male to the female.
Too bad her gill was infected badly (maybe spread from previous imported male -- he was infected initially) and despite the meds given to her, she just didn't last as long as we wanted her to be....
She died at age of 8-9 months. Making her the largest (and fastest growing) female we have ever had. We certainly are gonna miss her.....
This is the problem with giants, particularly females. Once their size gets too big, there is no male that can spawn them. The only ones that can spawn them would be long fin males, preferably long fin giants! But it's very rare to acquire good long fin giants. The ones available are typically 3-3.5 inches long, which is not even sufficient length to wrap these females (provided they're not beaten to death by the female first).
Her passing makes the number of bettas that we kept reduced to only 40. This is considerably easier to manage at the moment cause we have so many to start with. We still have to transfer about 200 of their siblings (and don't forget 3 tanks for fry!!!) to people out there who'd like to get their hands on the fish.....So people, if you'd like to buy good giants, just give us an email asap (read our previous post on costs etc).
We had been having trouble in spawning this female for a long time and recently we simply gave up. It's not because the female was not interested to any males that we gave her, she's more than interested. It's just that none of the males is capable to tame her. Along the way, she managed to kill two of the most gorgeous males too :)
She's very aggressive and large. We tried her with our largest male (imported), but this failed too. the male was 3.3 inches long, no way to compare the male to the female.
Too bad her gill was infected badly (maybe spread from previous imported male -- he was infected initially) and despite the meds given to her, she just didn't last as long as we wanted her to be....
She died at age of 8-9 months. Making her the largest (and fastest growing) female we have ever had. We certainly are gonna miss her.....
This is the problem with giants, particularly females. Once their size gets too big, there is no male that can spawn them. The only ones that can spawn them would be long fin males, preferably long fin giants! But it's very rare to acquire good long fin giants. The ones available are typically 3-3.5 inches long, which is not even sufficient length to wrap these females (provided they're not beaten to death by the female first).
Her passing makes the number of bettas that we kept reduced to only 40. This is considerably easier to manage at the moment cause we have so many to start with. We still have to transfer about 200 of their siblings (and don't forget 3 tanks for fry!!!) to people out there who'd like to get their hands on the fish.....So people, if you'd like to buy good giants, just give us an email asap (read our previous post on costs etc).
Wednesday, 16 July 2008
any takers for small bettas?
We have 3 tanks of small bettas, age about 1 week to 3 weeks (some of them have parents still "doing" the job). We barely can take care of them at the moment though they don't need much apart from regular bbs feedings. All of them from giants (2 short fin HMPK lines, 1 long fin HM line).
If you're in sydney and can spare hands to raise them, you can have some or whole tanks. We only ask a couple of pairs of the fry when they are adult. Not sure how we can transport them though, cause some of them are still very tiny...but transporting the larger ones would be straight forward (hopefully). Shipping is a no-no for these guys, they're just too small, don't think they will survive the travel....
Contact us direct if you're interested.
If you're in sydney and can spare hands to raise them, you can have some or whole tanks. We only ask a couple of pairs of the fry when they are adult. Not sure how we can transport them though, cause some of them are still very tiny...but transporting the larger ones would be straight forward (hopefully). Shipping is a no-no for these guys, they're just too small, don't think they will survive the travel....
Contact us direct if you're interested.
remaining giant bettas sales + bonus
There are still some giant bettas available, for those interested. Also we have some original imports and other breeder-quality bettas that we don't use any more, we'll give bonus when you buy 1 or 2 lots of bettas. first come first served basis, till stock last.
basically, for each lot sold, we'll include 1 (and only 1) fish of the bonus. We choose randomly which one to be sent to you . they have different colours and qualities.... all in all, we have about 20 or so of these breeder-quality fish....Of course we always give you more fish than what you've ordered, but the bonus specifically mentioned here are the breeder-quality ones.
some info about the bonus:
The deal is:
Also let us know if you'd like to receive the "rejects" fish for free. These rejects fish are very good fish genetically but have damage fins due to living in community tanks (they're fighters, so we can't complain too much, can we?). No sale is required if you're interested for the reject fish (but you still have to pay shipping)
Oh, in case you're interested on what they look like, some pictures at http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/breedingsmybettas/
In case we forgot to mention, they're all giants, so they're expected to grow much larger (with exception perhaps the import fish, cause they're full adults by now)
Contact us at mybettas@gmail.com (apology in advanced if we reply late, too much things going on at the moment).
basically, for each lot sold, we'll include 1 (and only 1) fish of the bonus. We choose randomly which one to be sent to you . they have different colours and qualities.... all in all, we have about 20 or so of these breeder-quality fish....Of course we always give you more fish than what you've ordered, but the bonus specifically mentioned here are the breeder-quality ones.
some info about the bonus:
- import fish with size around 3 to 3.3 inches for male and 2.5 to 2.8 inches for female (all HMPK). age unknown.
- our local bred fish with size around 2.3 to 2.5 inches for HMPK or females and 3.5 to 4 inches for long fin HM. age 3 to 3.5 months
The deal is:
- you purchase fish (20-25 fish in each lot) for $100 per lot. age ranges from 3 to 4 months old. colour: variety of reds, intense yellow, metallics (green, copper, etc). All randoms sent to you.
- we'll include 1 or 2 of the bonus for you
- shipping preferred at $25 (if this is too much for you, we'll give more fish to compensate!)
Also let us know if you'd like to receive the "rejects" fish for free. These rejects fish are very good fish genetically but have damage fins due to living in community tanks (they're fighters, so we can't complain too much, can we?). No sale is required if you're interested for the reject fish (but you still have to pay shipping)
Oh, in case you're interested on what they look like, some pictures at http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa201/breedingsmybettas/
In case we forgot to mention, they're all giants, so they're expected to grow much larger (with exception perhaps the import fish, cause they're full adults by now)
Contact us at mybettas@gmail.com (apology in advanced if we reply late, too much things going on at the moment).
Wednesday, 2 July 2008
branching in pectoral fin
been wanting to write this up, but kept forgetting about it...
anyway, having so many giants in our possession, we just realized that some giants are so huge that we can easily see the beauty of their pectoral fins. typically, pectoral fins are not clear whether they even have any branchings....well, now it's confirmed...they have branchings just as any other fins.
some of our large giants have clear branchings on their pectoral fins, we can even count the number of branchings....take a guess....some branches at 4 rays, 2 of our giants are branching at 8 rays and another one is branching at 16 rays.
it seems, pectoral fins branching follows caudal branchings. if you have 8 rays caudal, then chances you'll get 4 rays or 8 rays pectoral fins branching too. it's amazing to find this out, just to say how clearly visible they are, due to the sheer size of the giants
we wondered how many pectoral branching you can get on a 16 or 32 rays caudal branching? that would be interesting to find out...
anyway, having so many giants in our possession, we just realized that some giants are so huge that we can easily see the beauty of their pectoral fins. typically, pectoral fins are not clear whether they even have any branchings....well, now it's confirmed...they have branchings just as any other fins.
some of our large giants have clear branchings on their pectoral fins, we can even count the number of branchings....take a guess....some branches at 4 rays, 2 of our giants are branching at 8 rays and another one is branching at 16 rays.
it seems, pectoral fins branching follows caudal branchings. if you have 8 rays caudal, then chances you'll get 4 rays or 8 rays pectoral fins branching too. it's amazing to find this out, just to say how clearly visible they are, due to the sheer size of the giants
we wondered how many pectoral branching you can get on a 16 or 32 rays caudal branching? that would be interesting to find out...
Wednesday, 18 June 2008
stopping all breedings
Sadly that we have to stop all breedings/caring activities for all of our bettas. The time required to take care of them exceeds what we can offer them for the time being. We have a family member to take care of 24/7 due to health issue. Maybe we'll keep a few pairs for future breeding, but at this point in time, we have to let them go.
We have juveniles and soon-to-be adult bettas available. If you're interested to acquire them, by all means, please contact us direct.
There are quite a number of varieties available, but most of them carry giant genes (well, they all come from giant parents, about 3 inches long for HMPK and 4 inches for HM). For the sample pictures of what you're getting, check all of our previous posts (particularly in May). They're related to them one way or another...
You get about 20-25 mixed fish, male, female, HMPK, HM. Cost $100. That's about $4 per fish! Their sizes range from 2.5 cm to 5cm, some are larger. Age between 2 months to 3.5 months. Note that they have giant genes, so expect them to grow very nicely.
Sale period...all fish has to go out by end of June, otherwise some pet stores were quite happy to accept them (though hobbyists such as yourselves are preferred candidate for their homing).
Shipping $25 for any number of fish that you order. Shipping is preferred, though meeting for pick up can be arranged but given the timing, it would be very difficult but we can try (contact us on email). This sale is for AU only (sorry to RD and XN. perhaps next time...)
Bare with us if we reply to your emails late. We have been very busy lately.
We would be very appreciative if you update us on the development of these fish in the future. We definitely would like to get a couple of pairs (or any of their offspring) back if it is possible.
email mybettas at gmail.com if interested.
We have juveniles and soon-to-be adult bettas available. If you're interested to acquire them, by all means, please contact us direct.
There are quite a number of varieties available, but most of them carry giant genes (well, they all come from giant parents, about 3 inches long for HMPK and 4 inches for HM). For the sample pictures of what you're getting, check all of our previous posts (particularly in May). They're related to them one way or another...
You get about 20-25 mixed fish, male, female, HMPK, HM. Cost $100. That's about $4 per fish! Their sizes range from 2.5 cm to 5cm, some are larger. Age between 2 months to 3.5 months. Note that they have giant genes, so expect them to grow very nicely.
Sale period...all fish has to go out by end of June, otherwise some pet stores were quite happy to accept them (though hobbyists such as yourselves are preferred candidate for their homing).
Shipping $25 for any number of fish that you order. Shipping is preferred, though meeting for pick up can be arranged but given the timing, it would be very difficult but we can try (contact us on email). This sale is for AU only (sorry to RD and XN. perhaps next time...)
Bare with us if we reply to your emails late. We have been very busy lately.
We would be very appreciative if you update us on the development of these fish in the future. We definitely would like to get a couple of pairs (or any of their offspring) back if it is possible.
email mybettas at gmail.com if interested.
Tuesday, 10 June 2008
what gets us up and happy every day
funny how we were always looking forward to every feedings of the fish....it's not because there are lots of them, but rather because there are many unique ones. so cute and looking forward when they grow big.
this morning, we just separate 3 of our 5 weeks old bettas and were very excited to see how they flare and how big their sizes are.....many more will need to be separated, of course, but unfortunately many will just have to share the community tank (and got fin nip here and there) for now. These 3 are long finned giant line, nice size and the spread will make HM in a few days time... Their uncles are full HM giant at age 2 months, so they're not far off...
anyway, there are also some new pairs being separated as they're very AWESOME!! 2 months old, 8 rays branching, full giant size (size of adult HMPK at the moment). We just wonder whether they'll grow to the expected giant 3" size in a couple of months time, fingers crossed.
so, that's a very nice reward of feeding them :)
this morning, we just separate 3 of our 5 weeks old bettas and were very excited to see how they flare and how big their sizes are.....many more will need to be separated, of course, but unfortunately many will just have to share the community tank (and got fin nip here and there) for now. These 3 are long finned giant line, nice size and the spread will make HM in a few days time... Their uncles are full HM giant at age 2 months, so they're not far off...
anyway, there are also some new pairs being separated as they're very AWESOME!! 2 months old, 8 rays branching, full giant size (size of adult HMPK at the moment). We just wonder whether they'll grow to the expected giant 3" size in a couple of months time, fingers crossed.
so, that's a very nice reward of feeding them :)
Saturday, 7 June 2008
Breeders' help wanted!!!
We have reserved some pairs for breeding, however there are not sufficient spawning tanks for us to spawn them all. So, we are offering the pairs to you to spawn with the following conditions:
months we would be able to choose a couple of pairs from them for us to keep.
If you decide not to use the initial pair anymore (whether the spawning was successful or not), give us the first chance to decide whether we'd like to get the fish back without charge.
You may notice that we require you to feed the pairs live food. As much as we like to give you the freedom in keeping and spawning them, we'd like to ensure that the pair and its offspring to be in top condition at all times. If you cannot satisfy this requirement, sorry, you won't be able to participate on this effort.
Bond amount per pair:
Inexperience breeder = if you have successfully spawn at least once with 25-50 offspring survived to the age of 3 months on one single spawn.
There are a number of pairs available, we decide the pairing. Contact us if you're interested and we can let you know some combinations of pairings that may interest you and us. If you can help us out in spawning more pairs, then we're more than happy to supply the fish. Let us know your background in breeding to aid in our decision.
Some info about the fish:
As the fish involved at the moment is very young (2-3 months old), you may need to keep them for another 1 or 2 months before you spawn them. We can't keep them in our tanks simply because we don't have enough tanks to keep them all.
There are a number of goals of spawning these pairs including but not limited to:
Note that the fish involved here are all breeder-quality fish, therefore only consider this opportunity if you are serious in breeding. If you "just want to start on breeding" or experimenting or could not satisfy the definition of "in/experienced breeder" above, then we suggest you to simply buy the pair. They are available for special price of $60 per pair.
This whole description here is the "contract", if you choose to participate.We're not lawyer, so don't bother to argue on interpretations of the description here, our interpretation is the correct one. Please contact us direct on mybettas at gmail dot com, if any of the description here is unclear to you.
Fish handover for Sydney people can be arranged at very limited locations, otherwise we recommend shipping at cost $20.
- we provide 1 pair to you
- you pay bond money to us for the pair
- you spawn the pair
- you get to keep the pair and its offspring
- at all time, you feed the pair and its offspring sufficient (if not abundance) live food (e.g. live worms or equivalent live food for adults and any fry > 1.5 months)
- we get the first choice of picking up to 5 pairs free-of-charge from its offsprings at age of 2-3 months old, at which time we will return your money
- in the event of any fish died or prolonged unsuccessful spawning (e.g. more than 3 months), we keep the money
- if you decided to cancel this contract then we keep the money but you're still obligated to give us chance to keep up to 5 pairs of its offspring if you were successful in spawning them.
- you can only use any of the fish to pair it with other fish *after* you've successfully spawn the initial pair (otherwise this contract is considered "canceled" and we keep the bond).
months we would be able to choose a couple of pairs from them for us to keep.
If you decide not to use the initial pair anymore (whether the spawning was successful or not), give us the first chance to decide whether we'd like to get the fish back without charge.
You may notice that we require you to feed the pairs live food. As much as we like to give you the freedom in keeping and spawning them, we'd like to ensure that the pair and its offspring to be in top condition at all times. If you cannot satisfy this requirement, sorry, you won't be able to participate on this effort.
Bond amount per pair:
- $20 per pair for experienced breeder
- $40 per pair for inexperienced breeder
Inexperience breeder = if you have successfully spawn at least once with 25-50 offspring survived to the age of 3 months on one single spawn.
There are a number of pairs available, we decide the pairing. Contact us if you're interested and we can let you know some combinations of pairings that may interest you and us. If you can help us out in spawning more pairs, then we're more than happy to supply the fish. Let us know your background in breeding to aid in our decision.
Some info about the fish:
- mainly coming from cross of giants
- either HM, HMPK, or the mixture of both (no PK)
- age of 2-3 months now
- may have nip/torn on fins
- colours combination of cambodian red, copper gold, gold, green, intense yellow, and any of their combination/mix
As the fish involved at the moment is very young (2-3 months old), you may need to keep them for another 1 or 2 months before you spawn them. We can't keep them in our tanks simply because we don't have enough tanks to keep them all.
There are a number of goals of spawning these pairs including but not limited to:
- large size giant (HM and HMPK lines)
- new/different colour
- heavy branching giant
Note that the fish involved here are all breeder-quality fish, therefore only consider this opportunity if you are serious in breeding. If you "just want to start on breeding" or experimenting or could not satisfy the definition of "in/experienced breeder" above, then we suggest you to simply buy the pair. They are available for special price of $60 per pair.
This whole description here is the "contract", if you choose to participate.We're not lawyer, so don't bother to argue on interpretations of the description here, our interpretation is the correct one. Please contact us direct on mybettas at gmail dot com, if any of the description here is unclear to you.
Fish handover for Sydney people can be arranged at very limited locations, otherwise we recommend shipping at cost $20.
Tuesday, 3 June 2008
complicated importation dealings
Funny how we always think that business dealings, such as buying bettas, would be pretty much straightforward. Well, it's not. The difficulties seem to lie in the fact that there are 3 or more parties involved.
At the very least, there will be seller, buyer, and dont forget transhipper. Then there would also be shippers along the way. For instance, there typically a shipper on the source export country (such as thailand), an intermediate shipper in other countries such as malaysia or singapore, etc. Most of these shippers are working behind scenes without buyer knowing their existence. But there would be times when you aint getting your fish and when you carefully track it down, then all of a sudden they matters.
For example, when the shippers are misinformed, there would be big chances your fish will be stranded on the airport somewhere ;) Or, when your transhipper who kindly manages the wellbeing of your fish during the transit forgets to notify one of the shippers about date changes, whoala, a bunch of your fish will be staying put and you may say hi to them in due course (typically waiting till next shipment).
The dynamicity and complexity of export import relies on a very simple premise. If everyone is well informed ahead of time, then they can prepare to the best of their knowledge, otherwise "accidents" bound to happen. The very unfortunate facts about import export, particularly of live fish, are the uncertainty of the process becomes critical importance since those live fish can't wait around too much. Once they're delayed for 1 day for instance, then chances you'll see half of your shipment drop dead in their nice little plastic wrappers.
However, this doesn't mean that live fish is very difficult to be shipped. No, on the contrary, there are many companies managed to master the skill of export import. These companies do things "in the large", they usually don't deal with you (for shipping 1-10 bettas) :D. Suffice to say that they're very professional. OK, your fish is small potatoes for them, hence you still have to pest them to "can i see it when you get your import in?", but their dealings with you are very simple too. They import your fish, you tell them "oh, by the way, they are bettas, so you can just put them in small container", which then they would easily do, they take care of all paperworks amongst all the big fish they've imported, you'll ask them when you can get your bettas after quarantine, then presto, you've got your bettas. How much they charged? Very miniscule fee, cause bettas are very much small potatoes for them. Most of the time if you know those companies well, they would do the importation for you for free (dude, it's not like they'll charge you per fish, they have 1000s of fish per import!!). So, the less you pest them, the better.
Anyway, that's provided if you're lucky enough to find these importers. Remember, they dont want to deal with you cause you're small potatoes. But many "big" aquarium have licenses to import fish, so it's the matter of your skills to know them and "tag along" their imports. If you're not lucky enough, then there are other kind souls out there that would help you import the fish for you, for a fee of course. Now, this may not sound promising if you import regularly, but that's the service and you're more than welcome to use it !
The very unfortunate fact on dealing with bettas is the price that you scoop for the fish and the price that you pay in total. This reminds you of something isn't it? Yes, the petrol price! Though bettas is even crazier than petrol.
Let's analyze the situation....Cost of a betta is about a few dollars (give or take). This is the "clean price". Some "designer" bettas costs up to 100 times more than that. We'll discuss "designer" very shortly. Anyway, that's just the cost of the fish. Next you need to add the cost of the importation and shipping. In terms of bettas, this usually is even more expensive than your fish!! So, how crazy is that? Let's say you buy $2 Crowntail, add it up with shipping/import fees, you may ended up paying upto $50 in total. While you can combine shipping cost with other folks, importation fee is where you're stuck. If you're lucky to find nice fella doing the importation, then your overall cost isn't a big deal. Otherwise, you may just as well kiss your hobby goodbye, cause it's just too darn expensive to keep it.
Now, this discussion is not against any transhippers/importers! They justify their cost accordingly. Hey, it's predatorial world that we live in ;) Someone has to feed somebody else's tummy, otherwise nothing will get done. There may be people who attached themselves to the goodness of others, but that's very rare. Does this remind you of something? I bet so, remember how the big supermarket giants such as Coles and Woollies charge exorbitant prices for their "fresh foods" when you know the farmers aint getting anything much for it? Well, giant supermarket always say that they only take very small profit from it. Do you ever believe them? So, whenever you heard "advancing Australia bettas' quality" coming out of someone's mouth, you ought to question if that's just bull of crap or coming from their hearts.
I think everyone pretty much understands the dynamic of this delicate relationship between buyer, seller, shippers, and transhippers. Buyer is afraid to insult transhipper, seller is afraid to insult both buyer and transhipper, and transhipper only afraid when there are too much competition around, otherwise they're pretty much the boss around the house. Also, most buyers are typically happy for transhippers to charge them for their service, provided the charges are reasonable. But once the balance of fees getting to the point where one side looses his standing, then you'll see the dying of bettas as a hobby. In fact, bettas never did took off in Australia. It was initiated a number of times, many hobbists start the process, but then it just die off. Why you must ask? Well, one of the factors is cost. The other is remoteness of our location from each other. But we believe, cost is the main driving force. If we ever want to make bettas as an ever-growing hobby, we need to start with all the support infrastructure. This includes:
The first category is similar to buying branded goods (Dior, Armani, etc). Yes, the quality is reflected on the price you pay for it. But have you bought "cheap-quality-but-expensive-price" clothes such as Guess or any other labelled goods? You are not buying the goods (cause it really is crappy quality) but you buy the "brand" !! So, with bettas you really have to be careful to identify whether you're buying the brand or you're getting the goods (and the brand) that you so rightly deserved that come with the price tag.
The second category is similar to finding treasure in the supermarket. In the supermarket, everyone is pretty much selling "the same quality" stuff, but from time to time, you see the good quality ones that catch your eye. These "better" quality fish typically offerred for higher prices compared to other lower quality ones, and may escalate their status as "designer" fish.
Of course there is a third category that we have not discussed much yet. That is when everyone is selling crappy fish as "designer" fish. This is very much reflected in the market too. Have you ever wonder how on earth a crappy T-Shirt costs $12 at Paddy's when you know that they cost only a tenth of that in their originating country? OK, you may try to fool yourself by saying "there are importation costs etc involve", well, let me tell you, that's just another bull of crap. Put it very simple, importers make tons of money, otherwise they won't be in the business. It boils down to how much demand out there for their goods. Back in the old days when there are not that many importers around, then you see the $10 T-Shirt as high demand (they are the cheapest with "reasonable quality" compared to your usual $20 T-Shirt). Now that there are many importers importing the T-Shirt, the law of demand/supply should dictate that the price is lower. Well, that's where you're wrong again. The importers or the sellers get their act together such that they FIX the price!
Well, you may then ask, how is this applied to bettas? Pretty much the same way....The more demands on the market, the more people import fish, the cheaper it should be for the price of importation -- provided there are heaps of competition, otherwise you see the price not changing much or even rising. We are starting to see the price of bettas going down recently on bidding places. This is when the demands slow down. But unfortunately it rises soon after that, cause when there are demands, there are also more supply, and it's dead easy for anyone to jack up the price. Then you see how everyone selling standard quality for the price that designer fish being charged. Now, of course you can always defend big supermarket giants by saying "well, you need to know what you buy and your limit in buying", but that's just crap. If anyone has decency to other hobbyists, then they ought to consider their pricing very carefully.
For instance, there are a number of very decent sellers who are more than happy to offer you very reasonable prices for their fish. Not because they can't jack you up with higher prices, but because they understand the hobby and try to support it. They understand how much that you as a buyer have been ripped off by the "system", hence they try to supply with very reasonable prices, in the hope that you will come back to them and buy more. These kind of sellers are more than recommended cause they're not in the business of ripping you off. They've been in the business for a number of years and understand the fluid of bettas hobby....
Anyway, this post is getting way too long. Hopefully it's a good food for thought for other hobbyists out there. As usual, feel free to contact us for comment (if you prefer not to comment on the blog itself).
At the very least, there will be seller, buyer, and dont forget transhipper. Then there would also be shippers along the way. For instance, there typically a shipper on the source export country (such as thailand), an intermediate shipper in other countries such as malaysia or singapore, etc. Most of these shippers are working behind scenes without buyer knowing their existence. But there would be times when you aint getting your fish and when you carefully track it down, then all of a sudden they matters.
For example, when the shippers are misinformed, there would be big chances your fish will be stranded on the airport somewhere ;) Or, when your transhipper who kindly manages the wellbeing of your fish during the transit forgets to notify one of the shippers about date changes, whoala, a bunch of your fish will be staying put and you may say hi to them in due course (typically waiting till next shipment).
The dynamicity and complexity of export import relies on a very simple premise. If everyone is well informed ahead of time, then they can prepare to the best of their knowledge, otherwise "accidents" bound to happen. The very unfortunate facts about import export, particularly of live fish, are the uncertainty of the process becomes critical importance since those live fish can't wait around too much. Once they're delayed for 1 day for instance, then chances you'll see half of your shipment drop dead in their nice little plastic wrappers.
However, this doesn't mean that live fish is very difficult to be shipped. No, on the contrary, there are many companies managed to master the skill of export import. These companies do things "in the large", they usually don't deal with you (for shipping 1-10 bettas) :D. Suffice to say that they're very professional. OK, your fish is small potatoes for them, hence you still have to pest them to "can i see it when you get your import in?", but their dealings with you are very simple too. They import your fish, you tell them "oh, by the way, they are bettas, so you can just put them in small container", which then they would easily do, they take care of all paperworks amongst all the big fish they've imported, you'll ask them when you can get your bettas after quarantine, then presto, you've got your bettas. How much they charged? Very miniscule fee, cause bettas are very much small potatoes for them. Most of the time if you know those companies well, they would do the importation for you for free (dude, it's not like they'll charge you per fish, they have 1000s of fish per import!!). So, the less you pest them, the better.
Anyway, that's provided if you're lucky enough to find these importers. Remember, they dont want to deal with you cause you're small potatoes. But many "big" aquarium have licenses to import fish, so it's the matter of your skills to know them and "tag along" their imports. If you're not lucky enough, then there are other kind souls out there that would help you import the fish for you, for a fee of course. Now, this may not sound promising if you import regularly, but that's the service and you're more than welcome to use it !
The very unfortunate fact on dealing with bettas is the price that you scoop for the fish and the price that you pay in total. This reminds you of something isn't it? Yes, the petrol price! Though bettas is even crazier than petrol.
Let's analyze the situation....Cost of a betta is about a few dollars (give or take). This is the "clean price". Some "designer" bettas costs up to 100 times more than that. We'll discuss "designer" very shortly. Anyway, that's just the cost of the fish. Next you need to add the cost of the importation and shipping. In terms of bettas, this usually is even more expensive than your fish!! So, how crazy is that? Let's say you buy $2 Crowntail, add it up with shipping/import fees, you may ended up paying upto $50 in total. While you can combine shipping cost with other folks, importation fee is where you're stuck. If you're lucky to find nice fella doing the importation, then your overall cost isn't a big deal. Otherwise, you may just as well kiss your hobby goodbye, cause it's just too darn expensive to keep it.
Now, this discussion is not against any transhippers/importers! They justify their cost accordingly. Hey, it's predatorial world that we live in ;) Someone has to feed somebody else's tummy, otherwise nothing will get done. There may be people who attached themselves to the goodness of others, but that's very rare. Does this remind you of something? I bet so, remember how the big supermarket giants such as Coles and Woollies charge exorbitant prices for their "fresh foods" when you know the farmers aint getting anything much for it? Well, giant supermarket always say that they only take very small profit from it. Do you ever believe them? So, whenever you heard "advancing Australia bettas' quality" coming out of someone's mouth, you ought to question if that's just bull of crap or coming from their hearts.
I think everyone pretty much understands the dynamic of this delicate relationship between buyer, seller, shippers, and transhippers. Buyer is afraid to insult transhipper, seller is afraid to insult both buyer and transhipper, and transhipper only afraid when there are too much competition around, otherwise they're pretty much the boss around the house. Also, most buyers are typically happy for transhippers to charge them for their service, provided the charges are reasonable. But once the balance of fees getting to the point where one side looses his standing, then you'll see the dying of bettas as a hobby. In fact, bettas never did took off in Australia. It was initiated a number of times, many hobbists start the process, but then it just die off. Why you must ask? Well, one of the factors is cost. The other is remoteness of our location from each other. But we believe, cost is the main driving force. If we ever want to make bettas as an ever-growing hobby, we need to start with all the support infrastructure. This includes:
- forums (plenty of this)
- transhippers (if they charge reasonably)
- reasonable costs of bettas (which relies on transhippers above for imported bettas)
- sharing ideas/skills (plenty of hobbyists to do this)
- place to show off what you've got (and sell them to other hobbyists)
The first category is similar to buying branded goods (Dior, Armani, etc). Yes, the quality is reflected on the price you pay for it. But have you bought "cheap-quality-but-expensive-price" clothes such as Guess or any other labelled goods? You are not buying the goods (cause it really is crappy quality) but you buy the "brand" !! So, with bettas you really have to be careful to identify whether you're buying the brand or you're getting the goods (and the brand) that you so rightly deserved that come with the price tag.
The second category is similar to finding treasure in the supermarket. In the supermarket, everyone is pretty much selling "the same quality" stuff, but from time to time, you see the good quality ones that catch your eye. These "better" quality fish typically offerred for higher prices compared to other lower quality ones, and may escalate their status as "designer" fish.
Of course there is a third category that we have not discussed much yet. That is when everyone is selling crappy fish as "designer" fish. This is very much reflected in the market too. Have you ever wonder how on earth a crappy T-Shirt costs $12 at Paddy's when you know that they cost only a tenth of that in their originating country? OK, you may try to fool yourself by saying "there are importation costs etc involve", well, let me tell you, that's just another bull of crap. Put it very simple, importers make tons of money, otherwise they won't be in the business. It boils down to how much demand out there for their goods. Back in the old days when there are not that many importers around, then you see the $10 T-Shirt as high demand (they are the cheapest with "reasonable quality" compared to your usual $20 T-Shirt). Now that there are many importers importing the T-Shirt, the law of demand/supply should dictate that the price is lower. Well, that's where you're wrong again. The importers or the sellers get their act together such that they FIX the price!
Well, you may then ask, how is this applied to bettas? Pretty much the same way....The more demands on the market, the more people import fish, the cheaper it should be for the price of importation -- provided there are heaps of competition, otherwise you see the price not changing much or even rising. We are starting to see the price of bettas going down recently on bidding places. This is when the demands slow down. But unfortunately it rises soon after that, cause when there are demands, there are also more supply, and it's dead easy for anyone to jack up the price. Then you see how everyone selling standard quality for the price that designer fish being charged. Now, of course you can always defend big supermarket giants by saying "well, you need to know what you buy and your limit in buying", but that's just crap. If anyone has decency to other hobbyists, then they ought to consider their pricing very carefully.
For instance, there are a number of very decent sellers who are more than happy to offer you very reasonable prices for their fish. Not because they can't jack you up with higher prices, but because they understand the hobby and try to support it. They understand how much that you as a buyer have been ripped off by the "system", hence they try to supply with very reasonable prices, in the hope that you will come back to them and buy more. These kind of sellers are more than recommended cause they're not in the business of ripping you off. They've been in the business for a number of years and understand the fluid of bettas hobby....
Anyway, this post is getting way too long. Hopefully it's a good food for thought for other hobbyists out there. As usual, feel free to contact us for comment (if you prefer not to comment on the blog itself).
Monday, 2 June 2008
rainbow sale
There are a bunch of fish for bulk sale. Their age from 2-3 months old. all from giant lines of HMPK and HM.
this sale is called rainbow sale cause you get mixed of colours on a sale, mix of everything that we have. all fish properly labelled. if you're interested to know the history of your fish, let us know on the order.
condition of sale still the same as our charity ones: you either donate the money to charity and send us shipping cost, or you pay us up for the fish cost + shipping cost.
Lots available:
Lot 1: top quality (best of the lines), very little to no torn on tail
Lot 2: medium quality, some torn on tail (usually just one torn on anal fin; without the torn, they would make one of the best ones).
Lot 3: medium quality, some torn
None of the fish has any genetic problems. All damages on tail (torn) are recoverable very fast and easily, however they're very difficult to be recovered on our tanks cause they bound to "fight" with other fish on our grow up tanks.
If you're interested to get the complete colours of all lines, we recommend for you to get 2 lots.
We will give a surprise gift with each purchase.
Shipment $20, pick up can be arranged though shipping is the recommended way. Contact us on mybettas at gmail dot com.
Thanks.
this sale is called rainbow sale cause you get mixed of colours on a sale, mix of everything that we have. all fish properly labelled. if you're interested to know the history of your fish, let us know on the order.
condition of sale still the same as our charity ones: you either donate the money to charity and send us shipping cost, or you pay us up for the fish cost + shipping cost.
Lots available:
- Lot 1 -- 10 fish (5 pairs) for $150
- Lot 2 -- 10 fish (5 pairs) for $100
- Lot 3 -- 10 fish (5 pairs) for $75
Lot 1: top quality (best of the lines), very little to no torn on tail
Lot 2: medium quality, some torn on tail (usually just one torn on anal fin; without the torn, they would make one of the best ones).
Lot 3: medium quality, some torn
None of the fish has any genetic problems. All damages on tail (torn) are recoverable very fast and easily, however they're very difficult to be recovered on our tanks cause they bound to "fight" with other fish on our grow up tanks.
If you're interested to get the complete colours of all lines, we recommend for you to get 2 lots.
We will give a surprise gift with each purchase.
Shipment $20, pick up can be arranged though shipping is the recommended way. Contact us on mybettas at gmail dot com.
Thanks.
Friday, 23 May 2008
Expression of interest anyone?
There are 11 pairs of our best young giants available, for those who are interested. They are exactly 2 months old::
1. gold giant pair HM, 8 rays
2. copper gold giant HM pair, 8 rays
3. black red (green scales) giant OHM pair, 8-16 rays
4. platinum red giant HMPK pair, 4-8 rays
5. platinum red (gold) HM giant pair, 8 rays
6. intense yellow HM giant pair, 4-8 rays female, 8 rays male
7. cambodian red HMPK pair, 8 rays
8. green HM giant pair, 8 rays
9. red loss cambodian HMPK giant pair, 4-8 rays
10. platinum red BF giant HMPK pair (perfect pattern), 4-8 rays
11. intense yellow giant HMPK pair, 4-8 rays
4-8 rays indicates that the fish minimally 4 rays but already has some rays split to 8. All of the above are for breeder-quality giants most with size close to 2 inches (for 2 months old, u can't beat that!).
Any of the above pairs are available for generous donor who support our charity cause, otherwise feel free to offer us suitable price :)
1. gold giant pair HM, 8 rays
2. copper gold giant HM pair, 8 rays
3. black red (green scales) giant OHM pair, 8-16 rays
4. platinum red giant HMPK pair, 4-8 rays
5. platinum red (gold) HM giant pair, 8 rays
6. intense yellow HM giant pair, 4-8 rays female, 8 rays male
7. cambodian red HMPK pair, 8 rays
8. green HM giant pair, 8 rays
9. red loss cambodian HMPK giant pair, 4-8 rays
10. platinum red BF giant HMPK pair (perfect pattern), 4-8 rays
11. intense yellow giant HMPK pair, 4-8 rays
4-8 rays indicates that the fish minimally 4 rays but already has some rays split to 8. All of the above are for breeder-quality giants most with size close to 2 inches (for 2 months old, u can't beat that!).
Any of the above pairs are available for generous donor who support our charity cause, otherwise feel free to offer us suitable price :)
Tuesday, 20 May 2008
Questions and Answers
From time to time, we've got a number of questions about bettas that we thought better be answered in this one page :) Thanks AB and PM for list of questions. If you have more questions to ask, shoot us email and we'll list them here. The list will be added from time to time. Here they are...
- Q: what size of tank for the giants? A: it varies, but larger size is better. Usually a 10" tank is good for 1 giant, 12" tank is the minimal for a pair.
- Q: What is the size of your community tank? A: Our "community" tanks typically the 140+ L plastic container (tank). We found plastic container is more durable compared to glass tank. Ever wondered the experience of broken glass tank? :)
- Q: How frequently do you change water, how, and how much? A: everyday, suck all water out to dry & take large bucket to pour to the tank back (mix hot and cold tap to make sure temperature is warm), all of it about 90+%
- Q: Do you put other chemical (de-chlorine, multicure, others)? A: no. the fish aint sick, why give meds?
- Q: Aren't you worry that you injured the fish? A: no, they are hardy as rock :)
- Q: Do you have death on your tank? A: yes, about 1 or 2 fish every week each tank, the weakest dies first
- Q: How much you feed your fish? A: each week we spent about $100 to feed them with live worms
- Q: Isn't it a little bit too expensive? A: yes, but we justify it as they gave us enjoyment. We believed it's better to feed your fish best food rather than leaving them malnourished :) Their colour is more vibrant, they are more active, and we gets lots of enjoyment from it...
- Q: What's the temperature of your tank? A: standard 20C - 28C. We use heaters in the tank (unreliable room temperature)
- Q: How many tanks do you have? A: range between 8 to 15. Currently we have 8 growing up tanks, 2 breeding tanks, soon we'll add another 4 breeding tanks, etc.
- Q: What's the secret of your successful betta spawn? A: correct tank size, good parentage, ready pair, abundance food, good temperature, and you're ready to go. Spawning is easy, successful large spawn is different. Rearing is different -- it needs diligent and knowledge. Similar to being "good" mother ;) there are tricks not widely available on the books. Individual breeders need to know their fish well (but not too much motherhood!!)
- Q: Do you use special technique in your breeding? A: if you mean meds or almond leave, no. Our breeding tanks are bare empty. Sometimes we put plant there for artistic value (not for breeding reason).
- Q: What's your smallest, average, and largest spawn size? A: smallest around 50 fry, average around 150, largest 800-1000 (lost count when they're too many of them).
- Q: What's the common disease you've experienced? A: old age? we don't have diseases at all. maybe perhaps ick, but that's because sometimes the heater dies (hence temperature drop). dropsy occurs rarely.
- Q: How many fish do you have and buy from others? A: the number of tanks give you indication of number of fish :) We have around 500-1000 fish at any single point in time, but usually only about 500. We buy fish from time to time, from local breeders but mostly imported from international breeders.
- Q: What do you do with your spawn? A: some are sold to other breeders or interested individuals, some are given away to boyscout members (we're active in boyscout), some going to pet shop, some are given away to support other activities (such as charity etc)
- Q: Do you have preferred international breeders? A: no, usually we work based on their words and some pictures. We do have some connections and monitor their stock regularly to see if anything fits our breeding program.
- Q: What's most disappointing things in breeding? A: watching the juvies fighting :) They flare very pretty but torn fins never been an enjoyment.
- Q: What's some silly questions asked to you from other people? A: not so much silly, perhaps just ignorant. Some didn't appreciate what we have and thought that all fish are "the same", hence expect the same price for example. There are so much different quality of bettas and one has to understand the reason behind a single "price". For instance, you can buy clothing from Target for $40 and that's decent and you can't compare that clothing with the one that you bought in big boutique. Not only the material is different, but the "style" is so apparent and different. Very much like comparing fake diamond and real one ;) The differences are sometimes so subtle...
- Q: I've bought fish from you before, can I still buy a pair from the "same" line? A: yes, provided the line survived. Sometimes we had to terminate the line (very unfortunately) due to various reasons.
Saturday, 17 May 2008
For Sale or Charity
We have some giants young and adult available for sale or charity (while
stock lasts).
Prices as listed. You either:
- age: 2 - 3 months
- length: about 2 inches
- colour: blue, red, yellow, platinum red, black maroon
* 2 rays pair: $30
* 4 rays pair: $50
* 8 rays pair: $80
adult giant HMPK
- age: 3.5-4.5 months
- length: 2.5+ inches
- colour: blue, red, yellow, platinum red, black maroon, green
* 4 rays each: $50
* 8 rays each: $80
young giant HM
- age: 2 months
- length: about 2.5 inches
- available in DTHM and HM lines
- colour: copper gold, gold, copper black, green, blue,
metallic green, yellow, platinum gold, black blue lace
* each: $40
Note that some fish may have very small nip due to growing and
sharing community tank.
Shipping cost $20. Pickup meeting can be arranged if you live in Sydney,
but not preferred, email us first to arrange time/date (have to bother
neighbour's son to help give fish).
Contact us at mybettas at gmail dot com if interested.
additional disclaimer: if you donate considerable sum to charity and would like to 'redeem' some fish, we're more than happy to choose some of the best of our lines to be sent to you. This is our way to acknowledge how thankful we are for your help to those who are in need. Please do not hesitate to 'redeem', as we're more than happy to share our fish to good person such as yourself. Thank you!
some more pictures of the green and lace. they are taken during feeding, too much disturbance and activity going on :). The green is taken on flash, the lace without flash. No pictures of DT atm, too difficult to take their pics, but roughly same size and beauty.
More pics of the copper gold, DT and single tail HM. A little bit fuzzy but here they are :)
stock lasts).
Prices as listed. You either:
- pay us the prices for chosen fish, or
- you donate the money to charity (MSF is recommended: http://msf.org.au) and pay us shipping cost if shipping is required
- age: 2 - 3 months
- length: about 2 inches
- colour: blue, red, yellow, platinum red, black maroon
* 2 rays pair: $30
* 4 rays pair: $50
* 8 rays pair: $80
adult giant HMPK
- age: 3.5-4.5 months
- length: 2.5+ inches
- colour: blue, red, yellow, platinum red, black maroon, green
* 4 rays each: $50
* 8 rays each: $80
young giant HM
- age: 2 months
- length: about 2.5 inches
- available in DTHM and HM lines
- colour: copper gold, gold, copper black, green, blue,
metallic green, yellow, platinum gold, black blue lace
* each: $40
Note that some fish may have very small nip due to growing and
sharing community tank.
Shipping cost $20. Pickup meeting can be arranged if you live in Sydney,
but not preferred, email us first to arrange time/date (have to bother
neighbour's son to help give fish).
Contact us at mybettas at gmail dot com if interested.
additional disclaimer: if you donate considerable sum to charity and would like to 'redeem' some fish, we're more than happy to choose some of the best of our lines to be sent to you. This is our way to acknowledge how thankful we are for your help to those who are in need. Please do not hesitate to 'redeem', as we're more than happy to share our fish to good person such as yourself. Thank you!
some more pictures of the green and lace. they are taken during feeding, too much disturbance and activity going on :). The green is taken on flash, the lace without flash. No pictures of DT atm, too difficult to take their pics, but roughly same size and beauty.
More pics of the copper gold, DT and single tail HM. A little bit fuzzy but here they are :)
Wednesday, 14 May 2008
some pictures
here some pics of growout tanks containing red giant lines....
another one...
more...
sample red platinum boy
adult 3.5 months, 2.7 inches male
its sibling female, larger than the male...at 2.8 inches
These lines are mixture of the pure red cambodian, red platinum, red gold, etc. All of them King Giant Betta HMPK lines (3 inches more).
another one...
more...
sample red platinum boy
adult 3.5 months, 2.7 inches male
its sibling female, larger than the male...at 2.8 inches
These lines are mixture of the pure red cambodian, red platinum, red gold, etc. All of them King Giant Betta HMPK lines (3 inches more).
AB's green spawn
here is the picture of green spawn that we did for AB (thanks for permission, AB).
Basically AB provides us the pair and we spawn them as part of our spawning service. This picture was taken about 1.5 weeks ago. This sunday, AB will take the whole spawn with her, congratulation on growing them up....
By quick calculation, there should be about 500 or 600 fry there, all grown to 3 weeks this sunday.
Basically AB provides us the pair and we spawn them as part of our spawning service. This picture was taken about 1.5 weeks ago. This sunday, AB will take the whole spawn with her, congratulation on growing them up....
By quick calculation, there should be about 500 or 600 fry there, all grown to 3 weeks this sunday.
Monday, 5 May 2008
new blood
Now that we've emptied half of our tanks, time to introduce new bloods to the system :)
Currently we maintain a number of giant HM and HMPK lines including (but definitely not limited to):
A few restructuring of the tanks happening as well now. We managed to reduce the number of tanks from 20 to 8. 7 of them are growing up tanks and only 1 tank has breeding pair at the moment (they just spawned yesterday!).
Currently we maintain a number of giant HM and HMPK lines including (but definitely not limited to):
- red gold
- gold
- copper gold
- green
- melano
- cambo red
- intense yellow
- platinum red
- MG
- copper gold
A few restructuring of the tanks happening as well now. We managed to reduce the number of tanks from 20 to 8. 7 of them are growing up tanks and only 1 tank has breeding pair at the moment (they just spawned yesterday!).
Friday, 18 April 2008
charity sale
We're going to have another charity sale of our giant lines. The fish you're getting are all giant HMPK with age ranging from 2 - 3 months. Large and small :) Length ranges about 2-2.3 inches.
Their colour ranges from cambodian red, red loss, red gold (very limited), black/red/blue, black/red/green, melano, yellow, and green metallic (only 2??).
Note that these giants are solid King Giant Betta that can grow up to 4.5 inches (well, at least their parents were of that size). Mostly 4 or 8 rays split but there are mixtures of 2 rays here and there also. All very thick rays. Nip here and there are expected as they grow in community tank (with only selected few had the luxury of their own tanks). All nips will regrow with no problems.
Some sample pictures avail of the above, but don't expect us to take pictures of the exact fish (no time and place for picturing -- sorry).
First come first served basis.
Steps to participate:
Also available are 2 males + 1 female (cambo red and platinum red cambo line) breeders. They are breeders, nip/tuck may be noticeable but otherwise they're perfect for breeding. Males are slightly OHMPK, 4 or 8 rays (didn't bother to do the counting these days). They are about 2.5+ inches (didn't bother to measure either), with very thick and wide body. Age about 4.5 months. These trio will be sent from AK in QLD to you (thanks AK!).
Condition of participation:
PS. only avail for Australians.
Their colour ranges from cambodian red, red loss, red gold (very limited), black/red/blue, black/red/green, melano, yellow, and green metallic (only 2??).
Note that these giants are solid King Giant Betta that can grow up to 4.5 inches (well, at least their parents were of that size). Mostly 4 or 8 rays split but there are mixtures of 2 rays here and there also. All very thick rays. Nip here and there are expected as they grow in community tank (with only selected few had the luxury of their own tanks). All nips will regrow with no problems.
Some sample pictures avail of the above, but don't expect us to take pictures of the exact fish (no time and place for picturing -- sorry).
First come first served basis.
Steps to participate:
- send us email, telling which colour that you'd like, we'll confirm if stock still avail
- go to any of your charity, donate directly to the value of what you think the fish are worth for (include $10 for the shipping cost here).
- show us the proof of donation
- send us the other half of shipping cost (i.e. $10)
- we'll send you the fish agreed and we even cover the shipping charges (well...consider that we're donating half of the shipping charges to the donation in part of your money)
Also available are 2 males + 1 female (cambo red and platinum red cambo line) breeders. They are breeders, nip/tuck may be noticeable but otherwise they're perfect for breeding. Males are slightly OHMPK, 4 or 8 rays (didn't bother to do the counting these days). They are about 2.5+ inches (didn't bother to measure either), with very thick and wide body. Age about 4.5 months. These trio will be sent from AK in QLD to you (thanks AK!).
Condition of participation:
- we reserve the right not to send you fish if we consider that you haven't opened up your heart trully. for example, sending $11 ($10 shipping and $1 for fish) to charity and asking 20 fish is just not on.
- as guidance, each fish worth as much as you consider them to be, but at least ought to be more or less the price charged by your petshop (and they don't even supply giants!)
PS. only avail for Australians.
Wednesday, 16 April 2008
do you have gambling problem?
It just strikes me that breeding bettas are not much different from gambling :)
When you have gambling problems, it usually involves tendency where you keep loosing money and yet ignorant about it and still believed that the next bet going to win you back all the lost you've experience so far.
Well, most people who breed bettas in countries with 4 seasons know that you aint going to make money out of bettas hobby. It gets worst when you breed them!
For instance, we have been bettas for yongs now and have worked out some ways to cut our expenses but there aint a way for us to break even. We breed them and keep them like one of our own (child), hence we always make sure that they've got the "best" for everything. When it's cold, heater would be on. Food always life food (would you give your child crappy food?).
Keeping all those luxuries make a very expensive hobby. But there is more!! if you breed bettas, then it's only a matter of time before you'd like to cross your line out to improve it (otherwise you breed them just as 'normal' pets which you may not even care whatever quality that you get from your bettas). Now, that's the tricky part....there aint no one in AU can supply good/better bettas, so we have to import the "seed" from other countries. And importation aint cheap! Furthermore, this has to be done at least every so often. We at least cross out every 2 or 3 generations. This comes so quick, we pretty much has to rely on importing these guys every month or two.....
So, at the end, breeding bettas is no more different than gambling. Sure you've got the enjoyment of seeing them grow yada yada yada, but your pocket will dry very much faster too. This assumes you don't have any other problems with your current lines. What if all of a sudden your gorgeous male/female died and there wasn't another "good" replacement for it? there you go....import a new one! That's provided you can find a decent one that fits your breeding plans and should we say for "reasonable" price????
The folks in QLD or northern land are luckier. At least they dont have to worry about getting freezing cold for their bettas.
When you have gambling problems, it usually involves tendency where you keep loosing money and yet ignorant about it and still believed that the next bet going to win you back all the lost you've experience so far.
Well, most people who breed bettas in countries with 4 seasons know that you aint going to make money out of bettas hobby. It gets worst when you breed them!
For instance, we have been bettas for yongs now and have worked out some ways to cut our expenses but there aint a way for us to break even. We breed them and keep them like one of our own (child), hence we always make sure that they've got the "best" for everything. When it's cold, heater would be on. Food always life food (would you give your child crappy food?).
Keeping all those luxuries make a very expensive hobby. But there is more!! if you breed bettas, then it's only a matter of time before you'd like to cross your line out to improve it (otherwise you breed them just as 'normal' pets which you may not even care whatever quality that you get from your bettas). Now, that's the tricky part....there aint no one in AU can supply good/better bettas, so we have to import the "seed" from other countries. And importation aint cheap! Furthermore, this has to be done at least every so often. We at least cross out every 2 or 3 generations. This comes so quick, we pretty much has to rely on importing these guys every month or two.....
So, at the end, breeding bettas is no more different than gambling. Sure you've got the enjoyment of seeing them grow yada yada yada, but your pocket will dry very much faster too. This assumes you don't have any other problems with your current lines. What if all of a sudden your gorgeous male/female died and there wasn't another "good" replacement for it? there you go....import a new one! That's provided you can find a decent one that fits your breeding plans and should we say for "reasonable" price????
The folks in QLD or northern land are luckier. At least they dont have to worry about getting freezing cold for their bettas.
Saturday, 5 April 2008
Selling last and best giant female
Sadly, I think we have to sell our best and last cambodian red giant female HMPK. We can't breed her as there are no spaces left.
Anyway, here is her detail:
length: 3 inches
spread: 175 degree
type: HMPK
colour: cambodian red
age: 5+ months (hatched early Nov)
branch: 4 (from 8 branches line)
special price: $200 ono
shipping: $25
Note that this female is best for breeder. She's 100% King Giant Betta and typically you can't get similar female from anywhere (most people will not sell you one).
Contact us on email if you're interested.
Anyway, here is her detail:
length: 3 inches
spread: 175 degree
type: HMPK
colour: cambodian red
age: 5+ months (hatched early Nov)
branch: 4 (from 8 branches line)
special price: $200 ono
shipping: $25
Note that this female is best for breeder. She's 100% King Giant Betta and typically you can't get similar female from anywhere (most people will not sell you one).
Contact us on email if you're interested.
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